Comments for Nugatorius scriptor http://scribalculture.org/weblog Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:39:58 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Palaeography to Return to King’s College by Aidan http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/06/29/palaeography-to-return-to-kings-college/comment-page-1/#comment-323 Aidan Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:39:58 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=1155#comment-323 Thanks for the reminder. I did fail to mention and call to mind the article by John Morgan about the current funding situation: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=416815 Also, thanks for the information on the interview and presentations. I must admit that I'm not very well informed about the present state of things, but it's good others have not lost sight of this. Thanks for the reminder. I did fail to mention and call to mind the article by John Morgan about the current funding situation: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=416815

Also, thanks for the information on the interview and presentations. I must admit that I’m not very well informed about the present state of things, but it’s good others have not lost sight of this.

]]> Comment on Palaeography to Return to King’s College by Anonymous http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/06/29/palaeography-to-return-to-kings-college/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Anonymous Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:52:20 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=1155#comment-322 You do not mention that King's College told the world that it needed to 'disinvest' in the Chair of Palaeography because it could not afford to fund it, and it would seek sponsorship for the 'new' Chair in Palaeography and Manuscript Studies. But King's College have told John Morgan, of the Times Higher Education, that they have failed to find a sponsor and so are funding the 'new' Chair. If you can get someone in King's to explain why this makes sense, we shall all be in your debt. King's is interviewing for the 'new Chair on December 9th: I hope people will attend the presentations and ask those present from King's if they will guarantee that the 'new' Chair will endure, and if they are repaired to resign if it is threatened as the old Chair was. You do not mention that King’s College told the world that it needed to ‘disinvest’ in the Chair of Palaeography because it could not afford to fund it, and it would seek sponsorship for the ‘new’ Chair in Palaeography and Manuscript Studies. But King’s College have told John Morgan, of the Times Higher Education, that they have failed to find a sponsor and so are funding the ‘new’ Chair. If you can get someone in King’s to explain why this makes sense, we shall all be in your debt. King’s is interviewing for the ‘new Chair on December 9th: I hope people will attend the presentations and ask those present from King’s if they will guarantee that the ‘new’ Chair will endure, and if they are repaired to resign if it is threatened as the old Chair was.

]]> Comment on Medieval Book Prices again by Jena Habegger-Conti http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/06/27/medieval-book-prices-again/comment-page-1/#comment-315 Jena Habegger-Conti Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:06:02 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=1148#comment-315 I could totally see this happening with blogs one day ... you wanna read a good story? how much will you pay me? I could totally see this happening with blogs one day … you wanna read a good story? how much will you pay me?

]]> Comment on The Price of a Book in the Middle Ages by Aidan http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2010/09/16/the-price-of-a-book-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Aidan Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:00:30 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=856#comment-314 Okay, given that the colophon was given a date of around 1100, if we assume the basis for its shilling is 12 pence (thank you, Steven Pemberton!). The book in question then would have run 636d, which makes it nearly twice as expensive in absolute terms than the book describes in Ælfric Bata'a colloquy (http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/06/27/medieval-book-prices-again/). On the other hand, if the basis is 5 or 6 pennies to the shilling then the book described in the colloquy would be just about the same as this psalter. Okay, given that the colophon was given a date of around 1100, if we assume the basis for its shilling is 12 pence (thank you, Steven Pemberton!). The book in question then would have run 636d, which makes it nearly twice as expensive in absolute terms than the book describes in Ælfric Bata’a colloquy (http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/06/27/medieval-book-prices-again/). On the other hand, if the basis is 5 or 6 pennies to the shilling then the book described in the colloquy would be just about the same as this psalter.

]]> Comment on The Price of a Book in the Middle Ages by Medieval Book Prices again | Nugatorius scriptor http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2010/09/16/the-price-of-a-book-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-313 Medieval Book Prices again | Nugatorius scriptor Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:59:02 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=856#comment-313 [...] twelve mancuses represent 360 pennies and depending on how one interprets the evidence from the Załuski psalter, may be comparable to the later book or may represent a much discounted [...] [...] twelve mancuses represent 360 pennies and depending on how one interprets the evidence from the Załuski psalter, may be comparable to the later book or may represent a much discounted [...]

]]> Comment on The Price of a Book in the Middle Ages by Aidan http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2010/09/16/the-price-of-a-book-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-306 Aidan Mon, 02 May 2011 12:57:40 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=856#comment-306 Returning to the pence shilling issue: "Homilists, sermon-writers, lawyers refer consistently to unites of monetary assessment that are part and parcel of an ordered and stable structure, pounds and pence in a standard ratio of 240 pence to the pound and intermediate units, mancuses (30d), shillings (varying from the 12d of the Carolingian scale to 5d in Wessex and 4d in Mercia) and especially but not exclusively in the more Scandinavianized part of Britain the ora (16d-20d)" Henry Loyn, "Progress in Anglo-Saxon Monetary History", Anglo-Saxon Monetary History: Essays in Memory of Michael Dolley, ed. by M. A. S. Blackburn (Leicester, 1986), pp. 1-10 at p. 2. This doesn't elucidate the bases for the ratio, but, unless more work and argumentation suggest otherwise, perhaps it's best to say that either ratio (or any one of the three) is possible. Returning to the pence shilling issue:

“Homilists, sermon-writers, lawyers refer consistently to unites of monetary assessment that are part and parcel of an ordered and stable structure, pounds and pence in a standard ratio of 240 pence to the pound and intermediate units, mancuses (30d), shillings (varying from the 12d of the Carolingian scale to 5d in Wessex and 4d in Mercia) and especially but not exclusively in the more Scandinavianized part of Britain the ora (16d-20d)”

Henry Loyn, “Progress in Anglo-Saxon Monetary History”, Anglo-Saxon Monetary History: Essays in Memory of Michael Dolley, ed. by M. A. S. Blackburn (Leicester, 1986), pp. 1-10 at p. 2.

This doesn’t elucidate the bases for the ratio, but, unless more work and argumentation suggest otherwise, perhaps it’s best to say that either ratio (or any one of the three) is possible.

]]> Comment on The Price of a Book in the Middle Ages by Aidan http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2010/09/16/the-price-of-a-book-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Aidan Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:06:46 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=856#comment-299 Thank you, Steven. I recall reading or being told that the A-S shilling was variable, but approximately 5 pence and that the 12p to a shilling rate was fixed later (and carried on through most of the twentieth century). I will have to dig around and see where I picked this up. I may have missed something, it might be a mistake or there might be something with weights and equivalences. I have to try to retrace some inter-library loan steps before however. Thank you, Steven. I recall reading or being told that the A-S shilling was variable, but approximately 5 pence and that the 12p to a shilling rate was fixed later (and carried on through most of the twentieth century). I will have to dig around and see where I picked this up. I may have missed something, it might be a mistake or there might be something with weights and equivalences. I have to try to retrace some inter-library loan steps before however.

]]> Comment on The Price of a Book in the Middle Ages by Steven Pemberton http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2010/09/16/the-price-of-a-book-in-the-middle-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-298 Steven Pemberton Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:07:11 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=856#comment-298 There were 12 pence in a shilling until the 20th century. There were 12 pence in a shilling until the 20th century.

]]> Comment on Intersections of Past and Present, an application from Egypt by Aidan http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/03/11/intersections-of-past-and-present-an-application-from-egypt/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Aidan Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:12:28 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=1127#comment-284 Yeah, I thought it was pretty awe-inspiring. But forget where I first saw it; it was making the net rounds at the time. The creator had the illustrator file up for a while so that people could alter the image to their needs and tastes, which was also pretty cool. The original photos are here: Woman before the police http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_02.jpg Raising the flag http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/30012011_egypt_riots_02/egypt_07.jpg Yeah, I thought it was pretty awe-inspiring. But forget where I first saw it; it was making the net rounds at the time. The creator had the illustrator file up for a while so that people could alter the image to their needs and tastes, which was also pretty cool.

The original photos are here:
Woman before the police http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_02.jpg
Raising the flag http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/30012011_egypt_riots_02/egypt_07.jpg

]]> Comment on Intersections of Past and Present, an application from Egypt by jenaconti.wordpress.com/ http://scribalculture.org/weblog/2011/03/11/intersections-of-past-and-present-an-application-from-egypt/comment-page-1/#comment-283 jenaconti.wordpress.com/ Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:05:25 +0000 http://scribalculture.org/weblog/?p=1127#comment-283 what a fitting poster! ... suggesting that Egypt has just begun "the long march of modernity"? what a fitting poster! … suggesting that Egypt has just begun “the long march of modernity”?

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